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Celloglas in administration but deal 'imminent'
Finishing behemoth Celloglas has gone into administration, however PrintWeek understands that a deal to sell part of the business is imminent.
Paul Clark and Geoff Bouchier of MCR Corporate Restructuring were appointed yesterday afternoon at the lamination specialist.
Around 300 jobs across 13 sites are affected. However, Bouchier told PrintWeek that no redundancies had so far been made at the £24m-turnover business.
Bouchier added: "Management were already in advanced discussions regarding a sale of the business and therefore it is hoped that a sale can be concluded within the next few days."
There is speculation that a new company has been set up to buy five of the sites, however this is yet to be confirmed by either the company or the administrator.
Celloglas declined to comment at this stage.
Comments
The Mighty wind - 05 January 2009
we shall see how the new prepack rules work in practice and hope the right deal for all concerned is achieved.
Giles Print - 05 January 2009
Are we back already - Happy New Year everybody. Good luck to all as we greet the eye of the storm.
May the best men win.
I agree with old Mighty - lets see how these new rules work out.
I liked the "but deal imminent" in the heading about Celloglas.
Did our intrepid reporter speak with the administrators and actually get some sense and maybe truth?
This new legislation could be a step in the right direction!
It won't be perfect but it will be more transparent. Accountants etc are not risk takers and they won't be hiding much at the insolvency practice if their neck is on the block.
Sadly I can't help thinking that this is number One of many this year.
Brian Morton - 05 January 2009
This must be a terrible disappointment for the owners and staff. Unfortunately all print finishers operate in a very uncomfortable spot. Celloglas have done a great job but so many of their customers are teetering on the brink and it no doubt only took a few serious bad debts to tip them over the edge. Good luck with the pre-pack you guys, you deserve another shot
jason murray - 05 January 2009
A SAD DAY FOR CELLOGLAS
As an employee at the Manchester site,i am absolutely gutted.
However i am more than anything annoyed at the way it was all dealt with.
HAPPY NEW YEAR! for some.
NewCelloCo Ltd - 05 January 2009
Again, i am also an employee and am greatly annoyed with the way this has been handled. The first sign that something was up was when nobody got paid last friday!
As far as redundancies are concerned i can confirm they they are taking place at most if not all sites. There have been redundancies at our site and we are one of the sites that has been kept as part of "NewCelloCo Ltd"!
I just find it amazing how a company can fold, dispose of its debts, reform again with the same people in charge, get rid of staff who have worked hard for them for years and then carry on from a fresh starting point. Go figure
kb - 06 January 2009
As a member of Celloglas Staff, and fortunately not part of NewCelloCo, I am quite frankly shocked and disgusted with the way the whole deal has been handled.
I have only been with Celloglas for a year or so and am not owed great amounts of money, nor am I overly concerned about finding other employment. I am simply in shock with the way the MD of Celloglas and also of NewCelloCo have washed their hands of the responsibilty of their actions, not answering phone calls and even allowing some long term members of staff to contact Adminstrators to find that they should have been told they were no longer employed.
The money is not the main issue here, it's the [conduct that has] been shown throughout the whole affair. I would like to say I wish NewCelloCo luck, but unfortunatley i do not.
Edward Wheeler - 06 January 2009
Having just done a large sub contracted job for Celloglas in December I wonder if we will see any of the money we are owed. And if you are a concerned customer of Celloglas there are other suppliers out there, please give us a call for diecutting, embossing, glueing etc.
www.mpak.co.uk
Darren Crake - 06 January 2009
It is very sad indeed at how this has happened although I can have some sympathy in why it has had to been done. However when one door closes another one could always open!! Try Best Cover UV as we are looking for staff to fill similar positions....
Jon Fennell - 06 January 2009
Makes you wonder how a niche supplier like Cello get into a mess but suspect that the new Cello will not go the same way as other prepacks.
It will come down to how much of a bad taste Cello's own suppliers are left with and the cause of the failure.
Can the trade suffer the loss of Cello?
As always the staff get the kicking in these situations but there may be some hope yet.
Mark Cooper - 06 January 2009
The decision to take this step won't have been taken lightly; these are difficult times for everyone in print, everyday there seems to be a new story about otherwise credible businesses in print having to take drastic measures to ensure survival.
It's a real shame that Celloglas has gone into admin, and I wish the new company all the best, I've heard it will be a leaner outfit and hopefully that will provide a more viable structure for the business going forward.
Nigel Anderson - 06 January 2009
It amazes me how surprised people seem to be by the demise of the dinosaur known as Celloglas. I am equally amazed at the wishes of good luck to 'New Co', which will be managed by the same team that slowly but surely took 'Old Co' to pieces and irresponsibly costing suppliers millions of pounds and in some cases their livelihoods. The management team were poor \(to say the least) and none of them are capable of running a business themselves therefore why were they ever given control of a multi-million pound Company. I have gone head-to-head with Celloglas for the best part of 16 years and have beaten them into submission all the way. I have managed to do that with hard work, a great team of shop-floor staff and most importantly by giving the Customer \(that's the person who pays for my families food) exactly what they need and deserve.... A QUALITY SERVICE! Something Celloglas never gave once they had achieved [edited]. They were overstaffed, both upstairs and downstairs, the management didn't care and a significant number of the production operatives under produced e.g. my factory employs a third of the staff of Celloglas Manchester yet I process more than three times the sheets. Rather than sympathising with them and wishing them good luck, let's spare a thought for the dozens of small independent Companies they have [edited]. That was in the good old days when they were owned by a 'deep-pocketed giant' who merely set-off their losses against tax. How times have changed, no more deep-pocketed giant to subsidise losses, just a normal business with the same requirement any business has, operate efficiently and profitably, something they are incapable of doing. And to the suppliers that are planning to support 'New Co', beware, it's the same management team! Any supplier who supports them will not see my business [edit].
m m - 06 January 2009
As an employee of Celloglas I feel I have to say this as I stand to lose my job on friday. The way the management went about this is nothing short of disgusting. Not even having the bottle to come and tell employess about what is happening and just sit up on their high horse no doubt laughing all the way to the bank. This 'Newcelloco' [was incorporated] on the 29th of dec, yet we only found out about going into administration on 5th of jan. .
R R - 07 January 2009
I personally have the utmost sympathy for those people at Celloglas
Matt Bayliss - 07 January 2009
I would like to let our customers know that we are still open as normal. The more work we get, the better the chances of survival, and even if the worse occurred and we did close our doors, the better the deal that the suppliers and staff would get out of this mess.
With regard to the suppliers, they all have so far been brilliant in difficult circumstances as have all the staff who haven't been paid.
Please just keep the work coming for the good of everyone, if only so the Tax payer doesn't have to bear the burden of more redundancies.
I do not want to comment on Directors morals, but I will say that under administration we are finall y, after 10 years, for the first time being managed properly.
victor meldrew - 07 January 2009
"if only so the Tax payer doesn't have to bear the burden of more redundancies."
Sorry I thought it was Celloglas's duty to ensure that their staff received proper redundancy payments not the tax-payer, or are you pre-warning the trade of another Phoenix in a couple of months time.
Matt Bayliss - 07 January 2009
The voice of reason.
If there's only enough money to pay the bank and not the staff who do you suppose will pay redundancy money or unemployment benefit, hopefully you won' have to find out for yourself one day.
oldco ltd - 07 January 2009
Normally like most in the industry, I ignore the ranting of Nigel "the mouth of manchester" but in the interests of accuracy. Celloglas had never made a loss in 55 years \(except in one early year) from its foundation in 1950, until its sale to the current management team three years ago, and we saw a few recessions in that time Colin. Unfortunately for Nigel anyone can check that at Companies House and compare it with Nigel various attempts to become a major player. Where are the new plants you said your customers were pushing you to open in Leeds and Leicester that you have promised to open at least three times over the last five years? Talk to any supplier about who they would have chosen to trade with in the past and I doubt you'd find Nigel's name high on the list! Unfortunately and uncomfortably though, I find myself in agreement with Nigel and everyone else on the current managements abilities, crippled by a huge private equity cost on the balance sheet and [edit], their only skill appearing to be an arrogant level of self delusion about their suitability for running what was one of the finest groups in the Industry. My heart goes out to the remaining workforce truly a case of Lions led by Donkeys
guy beaumont - 07 January 2009
Whishing NewCo! All the best in the future
regards
Pat Villis - 07 January 2009
Bristol and Gloucester Celloglas Factories
would just like to say to all their customers that they are trading as normal and looking forward to a Bonanza year in 2009.
Nigel Anderson - 07 January 2009
For the interest of the Celloglas employees currently in limbo and the Celloglas creditors about to take a big hit, I have telephoned the Administrator three times and left a message for Jeff Bouchier and Paul Clarke to call me back \(they are handling all Celloglas affairs). I told Carla \(who took my calls) that I was interested in buying Celloglas as a going concern. I have just tried them again and again they are unavailable to speak to me. Carla confirmed my messages have been passed on. INCREDIBLE, somebody who might take over the Company and they don't want to speak to me; not good news for staff and creditors. I think the deal was done some time ago!
In response to 'oldco ltd' who doesn't want to put his name against his words \(surprise, surprise), I have been a major player in Manchester for 16 years and in Leeds for 3. If you remember Celloglas had to buy my two factories \(built up from nothing by a 28 year old machine operator with a ten grand loan) as you couldn't compete with me. As I had sold my Company my Leicester factory never materialised, if it had I would have out-performed you there as well. My new Company \(Alchemy Print Finishers) was opened when my trading restrictions expired just over 3 years ago \(NOT 5) and it WILL expand again, first into Leeds, which won't be good news for your 'Newco'. Leeds was originally planned for 2007 however the prices you were giving work away for I thought I'd wait for you to go bust, which nobody believed would happen. I'll re-asses the situation when the pheonix has risen from the flames and the 'ashes' have settled. With regard to your cheap and rather pathetic jibes about who suppliers would rather do business with ner, ner, ner, ner, ner; in the 16 years I have been in business I have always paid my suppliers, a few of them might not have made the margins they would have liked but that's business never-the-less I've always paid my bills and enjoyed long term relationships with them. Come on, my phone's red hot, tell us who you are, you must have been born with a spine. I'll have to go now I've got a few suppliers knocking at my door looking for business. P.S. Any Celloglas staff looking for work, I'm recruiting 0161 872 0793.
Darren Crake - 07 January 2009
It would appear that all Celloglas factories are trading, however I would not say "as normal" under any circumstances!!
Customers placing work with any Celloglas site are running the risk of having their jobs stuck on site whilst the administrators \(it would seem) take their time sorting out whatever it is they are sorting out.
Nigel, I am in the same position as I too have been trying since Monday afternoon to speak with the administrators regarding purchasing sites that have not been "cherry picked" already but have still not had a reply!!
Matt Bayliss - 07 January 2009
Darren Crake.
YOU NUMPTY !
Nigel Anderson - 07 January 2009
LOL
Marc Greig - 07 January 2009
As a p***ed off Celloglas employee from the London branch, I might as well join the band wagon and have my say. Having worked for Celloglas for a period of twenty years at various sites around the country, I have seen the company through very good times and to the disgrace that it is today. I am positive the 'old management' \(you know who you are!) will be spitting nails to see their beloved company go down the pan as they were once the market leaders by a country mile. To the cesspit of snakes that have formed 'New Co' \(and you know who you are), I don't know how you can sleep at night with what you have done to your workforce. One can only hope that your new venture goes exactly the same way as the one you have just abandoned.
On a personal note to Nigel, having known you for many years, having worked with you at Luton, I find your comments to be spot on. It beggars belief that the administrators have not even had the decency to return your calls regarding your interest in buying Celloglas as a 'going concern'. Everyone that has ever worked for you and with you knows that you will aspire to take Celloglas forwards and upwards to where it once was. MARKET LEADER.....Not to blow too much smoke up you arse! SOS...all soon-to-be EX- Celloglas employees.
victor meldrew - 07 January 2009
Matt Bayliss, been there and made sure that our loyal employee's whom we had to make redundant through no fault of there's received a redundancy package paid for by the company and not the tax-payer, it seems you had the foresight to set another company up on the 29th Dec but chose to not to let your staff know for another week, whilst a "Pre-Pack" was carried out, "Pre-Pack" another name for legitimate Fraud,
Nigel Anderson - 07 January 2009
Hi Marc, I remember you and all the lads at Luton well. I really enjoyed my time at the Luton factory and remember that it was probably the best managed factory in the group combined with the best set of production lads \(attitude to work and personalities) within the group.
I hope things work out for you, all the best!
Darren Crake - 07 January 2009
Matt Bayliss
Who are you? Do you really know me well enough? I don't think so.
If your comments can't be of a professional manner then your are just showing everyone what kind of "management" \(or lack of) Celloglas employ.....
Grow up!
Elizabeth Anderson - 07 January 2009
QUESTION FOR 'OLDCO LTD'
Hello all. I am Nigel Anderson's wife. I just wanted 'oldco ltd' to know he has devastated my husband, he has always thought he was a 'major player' and you've just told him he's a wannabe, great! He also thought he was popular with his suppliers and you've told him they don't actually like him, great again! He is very, very upset at your comments and has left the office in a right strop. The first time I met Nigel \(about ten years ago) he moonwalked over to me in a bar and said, "Hi sexy, I'm a major player and my suppliers love me, can I buy you a drink", so you can see he obviously thought he was a big time Charlie.
Darren Crake - 07 January 2009
LOL.....
KAREN GILMORE - 07 January 2009
Will the real Mrs Anderson please stand up ... I remember the moonwalk about eleven years ago - but I wasn't fooled! I knew he was only playing at being Paul Cripps. Seriously, though, sadness all round for the employees and their families. I guess most of us in the printing industry would feel for anyone who loses their job - and there could be many more of us in this coming year. Reference to Oldco Ltd ... don't know who you are, but I can only speak as I find. Anderson can be an arse - especially if you're a service engineer wanting to go outside for a fag. He's sitting there with a stop watch timing you changing a roller, and ALWAYS quibbles the bill because you've included said fag-break on a round trip from Manchester to Derbyshire. He is an exacting and demanding customer - anyone who's had any dealings with him knows this. We've supplied him machinery, spare parts, service and adhesive for the past 16 years, and he ALWAYS pays his bills. Not always in 60 days \(as we would like), but I do enjoy the Mancunian banter you get when you phone up threatening to cut his .... supplies off! Celloglass, on t'other hand, in the last three years, only paid their bills when threatened with court action. Unbelievable for a company of this stature. Fortunately, my husband \(Autobond's MD) listened to my advice \(!!!) two years ago and put them on a proforma/cheque cleared account before parts and/or materials would be shipped. We're talking trifling amounts, but we could see, two years ago, which way they were heading, and we are thankful that we're not on the creditors' list.
Speak in a couple of days, 'Overdue Charlie!' LOL
A Supplier - 07 January 2009
I have been a supplier to both Celloglas and Nigel Anderson over many years and I agree with Mrs.Gilmore that Nigel does ALWAYS pay his bills and has always been a honest, fair and loyal customer. But so were Celloglas when I dealt with them which was under the 'old' regime so I can't comment on what their recent payment record is like. Lucky for me I stopped supplying them before things got bad.
I do feel that Celloglas has gone from a mighty ship to a shipwreck over recent years and I do feel for the loyal employees and suppliers who are about to go through some rough times. I would suggest that any supplier that deals with the 'Newco' has the sense, like Autobond, to only deal on a pro-forma basis or, like me, not at all.!
And to Mrs. Anderson I would just like to wish you all the best in consoling Nigel and hope you bring him out of his devastation soon and tell him not to slit his wrists just yet. When I first met Nigel, he didn't said to me " I'm a major player and I'm sure you'll like me.!". But guess what? I do.!
NDCT - 07 January 2009
This thread is now more entertaining than an average episode of Emmerdale!
Carl Anderson - 07 January 2009
Hi, just heard the news that something that has been on the cards for some years now has finally happened. I heard it from someone who rang me to say they recalled a conversation we had about 4 years ago while they worked at Celloglas Manchester when I said there was no way they would survive after the installation of a General Manager who was put in place to ' keep his finger on the pulse of the business'.
So a big shout out and ' hi' to Russell ' The Love Muscle' Denby-Horwell and I wonder how this could possibly have happened to someone with such a fine double barrelled name!
Matt Bayliss - 07 January 2009
Voice of reason.
You are honourable and live up to your responsibilities, I don't need to explain the difference between you and our ex-owners.
Like hundreds of other innocent employees, we are likely to get shafted, pity for us all that you are not our boss.
Darren Crake.
Wouldn't want to know you, all you can do is gloat and you have no respect for the feelings of all of those who may have a very real threat of losing their homes in the coming months.
I suggest YOU grow up NUMPTY !
NDCT - 07 January 2009
Matt - I think I ought to apologise for my previous comment as it looks a bit insensitive. Good luck to you and your colleagues.
Matt Bayliss - 07 January 2009
Not Colin Thompson.
Thanks for wishing us luck, no need to apologise, I took no offence - actually agree with the emmerdale comment. Gotta have a sense of humour in times like these.
R W - 07 January 2009
From an ex employee who saw this coming 3 years ago and got out 2 years ago. The day Stuart Moffatt left was the day celloglas became doomed to todays fate! RP & RG were and are well out of there league and will I am sure fail again with the NewCelloCo!!!
Carl Anderson - 08 January 2009
Mmmmmmm, It may not be all bad news guys ! I hear a whisper that an entrepreneur from the Oldham area of Manchester, previously employed by Celloglas until moving on to work as a consultant for Dragon Den and with a '' solid'' sales and finance background has offered the administrators the opportunity to tap into his vast knowledge of both the print trade and general business acumen and put himself at their disposal. Good luck JM.
steven bates - 08 January 2009
i seen it coming ??? i seen it coming ??? lol thats all you hear off people in these situations like this. its like this if u knew there was a bomb under you chair and herd it bleeping would u carry on siting there untill it went off and then wake up in hospital and say i herd it bleaping thought not if u seen it coming years ago your should of got off the wagon then children, i have read what all has said and seen for my self that cello is a tottal mess up whitch was once such a icon of printership in the uk who knows whats going to happen with cello ? they going to keep five factorys. let the administrators run it into the ground, or mabee buy them selfs out yeah, ive seen that one before to tell you the truth theres a hunderd and one things that could happen wispers are wispers if cello manges to get back on its feet someway lets just hope they figure out what they did or mabee didnt do wrong if it was people hint hint and go forward into 2010 only thing relly to do is sit back have a cup of tea and wait for the music to be played good luck and respect ste
steven bates - 08 January 2009
ohhh yeah they better hope they pay me this friday lol
the amused - 08 January 2009
This is the only comment i am writing because my opinion \(the same as anybody elses) doesn't matter.
No customer work will be impounded should we have to close our doors.
Darren Crake - 08 January 2009
Matt Bayliss
You say I am gloating, this is just not the case at all. Yes I can not deny that my business may benefit from the fall of Celloglas but you couldnt be more wrong about how I feel about all the staff that will struggle to find new jobs in the current economic climate. I for one will be offering positions for experienced operators and managers alike, however it would seem on this instance you have really done yourself no favours, so good luck!!
Nigel Anderson - 08 January 2009
I think everyone is being a little hard on the 'two Richards'. I'm not their number one fan but don't kid yourselves that the Company was in good shape 3years ago because it wasn't \(despite what the man with no name might have you believe). Paul Cripps knocked Celloglas back into shape in the late 80's early 90's. Unfortunately once he had moved on the remaining Directors brought back all the o'ld boy network' that Paul had off-loaded and within 4 years they had undone everything Paul had achieved. That business has been going down-hill for ten years and I KNOW despite what 'OLDCO LTD' says; i am guessing he is old regime which is why he has reverted to name-calling and remained anonymous. The old regime spent most of their time bad-mouthing competitors rather than doing their jobs and whilst they were doing that they were losing more and more market share and the respect of the Customers who they were 'bitching' to.
Matt Bayliss.
What is your position at Celloglass? Maybe you should put a team together of Celloglas employees and get together with me to set up a new operation in Leeds and give NewCellCo a run for their money. Give me a call.
Darren Crake.
I'm sure you're not gloating but aside from the people losing their jobs, you, like me will be pleased as you have been 'slated' on a personal level by various Celloglas Directors, Managers and Salesmen. They've been telling the trade and their staff I'm going bust for the past two years! What did i say about Karma?
This is a big lesson learned for the two [edit] however i don't think they will learn from it as they both think they are dynamic and will blame this situation on the economy and bad debts and all the other excuses they will come up with.
Make no mistake though, we're all in a very fragile situation at the moment, nobody is safe because even if you're busy there's no guarantees we wiill be paid; a sale's not a sale until it's been paid for! So beware anyone who does gloat as Karma might come and bite you on the backside. To everyone out there in the trade, good luck this year 'cos we're all going to need it.
Karen Gilmore.
I'll respond to your posting later. Don't bother ringing me for money, i haven't got any! I can't make a profit when you charge so much for service engineers. What is it, £44 per hour traveling time? PLUS *** BREAKS! I don't know how you sleep. Any way i'm about to spend another £350,000.00 with your husband so leave me alone or i'll go to Billhoffer!
Matt Bayliss - 08 January 2009
Darren Crake.
Couldn't possibly move all the way up to the North, lovely as all Northeners are - I just can't stand the cold, but if I were to be brave I think I'd rather work for Nigel - much better business, and not just in my opinion either.
steven bates - 08 January 2009
still waiting
Nigel Anderson - 08 January 2009
LOL Matt
Darren Crake - 08 January 2009
If you like the archaic equipment used thats fine,\(same old machines as Celloglas) but then you probably not one for "change" unless its forced upon you anyway!!
Nigel stop encouraging these dim witts.....
Emma Wrigley - 08 January 2009
Lets get this into the real perspective. . Bottom line is the 300 familes that this mess now affects by what has happened since the 2 January.
Finding out you hadn't been paid was one thing, right after Christmas and New Year. Then being told why this didn't happen was another. To then face the prospect of having no job, maybe losing your home, trying to explain to your children what's going on.
So when you have all finished having a joke about the Celloglas situation just remember till you're in this position try having a thought for all the family members who are having to deal with this mess.
Hopefully you won't be in this position worrying about whether you will have a home by the end of the year of a job. I would'nt wish all the uncertainty that I am going through on anyone. You try explaining what is happening to a 8 year old who is wondering if her Dad will be ok.
Nigel Anderson - 08 January 2009
Yet again Darren, you've let yourself down. Why make such a ridiculous statemant? Who has archaic equipment? I never buy second hand and have four state of the art machines, the oldest being 3 years.
Normally i wouldn't have responded to such a stupid comment however as this blog is being followed by half the industry, i don't want potential customers thinking my 'kit' is antiquated.
Please don't make any more dim witts statements.
P.S. I think your machine \(that's singular) is great!
lol
Darren Crake - 08 January 2009
Nigel
People like yourself may have a long way to fall should you be pushed of the pedestal you put yourself on!!
Can I just say to all Celloglas staff I am truley sorry for the situation you find yourselves in and as I have mentioned I am guenuinley looking for qualified staff in all areas so please feel free to get in touch.
Emma Wrigley, your comment really brings it home with regards to how devastating this is for many. I wish all of you the the very best of luck.
This "blog" as it has become is now way out of hand, I apologise to anyone if I have upset them in anyway.
Matt Bayliss - 08 January 2009
To all.
Can I just say that I bear no ill feeling to anyone, but this thread has been a welcome distraction from our impending doom.
Thanks to all, its been fun. \( Not the administration, the banter )
Nigel Anderson - 08 January 2009
Your right Matt, it has been a laugh however it's turned into a bit of a circus and we are all guilty of forgetting the seriousness of the situation. I've just recieved a rather abusive text message off Mr Crake; i can't share the contents, the website would probably shut down if i did. I think you had him right, he obviously is a numpty.
I have just had a good chat with one of your northern colleagues and he's understandably very upset at his situation; if and when he needs a job there is one here for him. Emma has brought the whole thing into perspective and quite honestly made me feel a bit s**t about the larking around...sorry Emma.
Like you Matt, i've enjoyed the banter and i wish you and all the other potential casualties all the best.
Signing off for all the right reasons. Cheers
james james - 08 January 2009
Speaking as one of the potential casualties i have lost some friends as casualties to celloglas and have no confidence in my own position as it stands. I myself will be looking to get out of "new cello" as soon as i can, i no longer trust them or have any loyalty to people who can shaft the workers as callously as they have. Good luck to all who have lost their jobs and to the rest of us as we scramble to escape the wreckage of celloglas/newcello.
The Voice of Reason - 09 January 2009
just pointing out to everyone that the person posting under the name Voice of Reason with a join date of 06 01 09 and no avatar is an interloper and a scoundrel. I say to this person "find your own bloody pen name"
Justin Hussey - 09 January 2009
I feel the loss of Celloglas as a supplier to the print industry and to all its satff is a crying shame, having had dealings with Russel at the Manchester branch who has serviced us very well over the years.
Its tough times out there and if it's any consolation to the consumer, who has read and followed the above banter/self preservation, fear not. There are many other options available to service your company in this field. The mighty egg.
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